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Alex Willen's avatar

This is exactly what I’d be doing if I were still a PM, but with vibe coded prototypes instead of songs. Written specs and tickets are just not a great way to communicate requirements, and it’s great that we’re getting to the point where it’s easier to make a high fidelity demo then to spend hours in JIRA and Confluence.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Definitely! I hadn't realized you used to be a PM :) Great to know Alex. And thank you for reading!

Alex Randall Kittredge's avatar

This is such an interesting article! I am no audio engineer, but I'll have to give Sumo a try!

Farida Khalaf's avatar

I have been playing with Suno, I even did a song for the birthday of my best friend, ( let me know if you wanna hear it 🙈)

I agree that Suno broke, and I thought it is my fault, to finish one song, I have to use audacity too to finish what Suno did.

it is a nice tool but you need to have a passion and understanding to music to make something wow, otherwise another repetitive boring beat.

Farida Khalaf's avatar

it was a birthday gift and it worked perfect, not so good, but I enjoyed the process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Xo1N7HIBI

🙈🙈🙈

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Wow! It's so fun and much more complex than I'd thought it would be. Really cool Farida!

Farida Khalaf's avatar

did you like it, it was a gift that put a smile on everyone face, kinda unique, you can do a personalized song to your kids too

Farida Khalaf's avatar

of course you can, that would make it edgy, attitude-driven rhythm , can be empowering too

Farida Khalaf's avatar

I am just testing if i can change career, in case AI take my job 🤣🤣🤣

Mark Swanson's avatar

because music has a lot to do with feel, to delete the tracks right after you get the idea down, makes sense. you know sometimes how you can hear a song in your head, it's not audible, but you hear it, if you were a musician, you'd be able to recreate it, and some of the "flaws" in your recreation would be soul or interpretation in the way you make music. It allows for one's mind to do the work and give the music that litttle extra that makes the hair raise on your arms, or compells you to dance, bob your head or move you in some way.

Tinah MB's avatar

Great set of insights!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Thank you for reading Tinah!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Really appreciate that, Tinah! Thank you for reading 🤗

Kitbashing Abraxas's avatar

With how mixing AI and art faces much controversy, I'm pleasantly surprised with Alexander divulging his AI strategy, prompts, and workflows for professional music production.

Transcending one-shot deliveries through feedback loops, ephemeral references, and mixed media approaches is refreshing. That said, I do think tools like Suno can work well as track makers for hobby or play purposes.

Alexander, I'm reminded of a techno producer, Chlär, discussing his AI usage from 6:13 onward here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9hegE4WtLY

He describes using AI to fulfill the concept of techno: exploring frontier technology while also augmenting primitive results through inspiration from randomness. While randomness can be found elsewhere, I'm curious about how much you think your approach aligns with his.

Natalie Nicholson's avatar

Almost feels like moodboarding but for music. Really cool :)

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Love this analogy! It does!

Karen Spinner's avatar

Love this use case for Suno because it’s helping, not replacing, artists. 🤗

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Exactly, that's what caught my attention too. Thank you for reading Karen 🤗

Just J's avatar

This is a great post showing how AI’s impact spans across industries and how many of them share the same underlying challenge: communication.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Yes! That's a super interesting way to look at it.

Chintan Zalani's avatar

Really cool of Alexander to share this. I can relate to Suno being taboo, but the way you use it here is just super cool. I am a singer and guitarist. I have been wanting to get my hands around Suno for a while. Thanks for laying out the way it works!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

I didn't know that about you! That's wonderful!

Raghav Mehra's avatar

Wow, this is brilliant. Another domain of using AI as a communication tool instead of trying to replace the craft entirely. Will definitely give it a try!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Exactly, that's what caught my attention too. Thank you for reading Raghav!

Soumya Sreeram's avatar

Suno AI is our family favourite. Songwriters in our family who couldn't sing are now able to create songs and share them with family—great post for people to unlock their full potential with AI.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

I hadn't realized how many Substack writers already use it! Great example Soumya!

Melanie Goodman's avatar

Uber cool article!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Alexander's images definitely amplify the cool effect :)

The AI Architect's avatar

Fantastic way to rethink what AI tools are actually for. The distinction betwen "generating output" and "communicating ideas" is huge. I've seen similar workflows in code prototyping where the generated version gets deleted but clarifies what we actually need. The cost saving from avoiding wasted studio time probably undersells how much this accelerates the creative process itself.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Yes, I think you're right. The cost saving is just a part of this. Thank you for reading! 🤗

Ana Yana's avatar

now I want to play with Suno 😀

Witty Vit's avatar

Neat!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Glad it landed, Witty! Thank you so much for reading 🤗

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Thank you for reading Witty Vit!

Alexander Kumar's avatar

Thanks for reading