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Dr Sam Illingworth's avatar

Karo, I swear you are a linguistic Surgeon, it's amazing that you're able to break all of this down from that tweet and to be able to share it with all of us in public as well. Bookmarking this for later, as I've just entered the world of vibe coding, inspired mainly by your wonderful posts. Thanks again for the reminder of what I can hopefully achieve in the not-too-distant future.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

How great that you're starting to vibecode! Are you going to use Claude or Replit or Lovable?

Dr Sam Illingworth's avatar

Gemini! 🤣 then onto lovable I think…

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Great! Will you share your process?

Dr Sam Illingworth's avatar

For sure, I've got a Substack planned about this in the next couple of weeks. I can even send you what I've built so far if you want. Obviously @Karen Spinner has been holding me hand!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

That's fantastic! You're in great hands with Karen.

Karen Spinner's avatar

You built something functional and got it running on your website. That’s a win! 🎉

Dr Sam Illingworth's avatar

Thanks so much for all your help, Karen. It's fair to say I'm hooked and now need to start building things a little bit more complicated.

Just J's avatar

Great summary! He shows that you don’t need to overcomplicate things to make the best use of the tool, sometimes less is more. I also agree with how he thinks about agents: the smaller the task, the better, since it’s easier to reuse and debug if needed. I believe tiny tasks in the form of agents are the way to go.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Yes, he keeps the setup rather simple. Even calls it ''vanilla''. But then he spins 10+ agents simultaneously 😂

Priya Mathew Badger's avatar

The shared claude.md file is so interesting! We have been doing something similar with a shared agents in a marketplace plugin but haven’t thought about the approach as claude.md feels so personal!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

It does, doesn't it? No one should ever see mine 😂

Nicola Mattina's avatar

This is super valuable. Thanks for sharing ❤️

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

My absolute pleasure, thank you for reading Nicola 🤗

Juan Gonzalez's avatar

Thanks for breaking it down in such clear way, Karo.

There's the counter argument some people have that bcuz he is from Anthropic, not only he has to say CC is the best tool out there but he has almost unlimited usage so he can pull off things most of us mortals can't.

I appreciate that he's pretty transparent in his way of using it with the little details (even if some of us can't replicate that cuz we would max out on tokens)

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

That’s a very valid point. I was thinking of including it as well, but wanted to stay true to what he actually shared. He has unlimited credits, so his exact setup isn’t accessible 1:1 to most people. Tokens aside, he shared some patterns we can copy & test.

Juan Gonzalez's avatar

Exactly. He at least shared his whole workflow without gatekeeping any "secret sauce".

David's avatar

Gold

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Thank you for reading David! 🤗

Roger Wong's avatar

I've been tinkering with Claude Code for months, but I only scratched the surface of what it can do. Therefore, I can't wait to put some of these into practice!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

That’s great! Let us know how it goes!

Fred Malherbe's avatar

"You don’t trust; you instrument."

Interesting to hear an AI guru say this. I know they have disclaimers, but when are they going to tell you -- do not trust one single thing this machine says? Go and fact check every single little tiny item, because these bots fabricate and lie about everything? Especially do not trust the bot when it says "Trust me, I've checked this"?

When I asked DeepSeek whether one extended narrative in a research exercise was really true, it assured me it was and said "I have fallen on my sword for less". The whole thing turned out to be a huge hallucination, a vast pack of lies that it lied about and then lied further about its lies. Who needs a tool that deliberately lies to you? And then lies to cover up its lies?

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Yes, fact checking should be normalized, for everything that we do.

James Presbitero's avatar

Another amazing article! Gonna dive deep into Claude Code soon, and I for sure will have this article opened for reference.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

That's fantastic, thank you James!

Adam M. Adamek, PhD's avatar

It’s a great summary! Thanks for sharing Karo! Big fan!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

My pleasure, thank you for reading Adam 🤗

Ilia Karelin's avatar

It's the best use case when the creator of Claude Code is telling you how he uses it. Since he knows better than anyone how to use the tool, he can lay everything out for you. It's essentially a roadmap for how to use Claude Code to its full potential. Amazing post!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Thank you for reading Ilia and I agree, I'd love to see builders from other companies do that too.

Carey Lening's avatar

This is so freaking useful. I had no idea plan mode was a thing, and I hadn't thought of using CLAUDE.md as a knowledge base for bugs. Brilliant stuff.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Thank you for reading Privacat!!!

Marko Schmitt's avatar

Wow - supercool. Thanks for the summary. I feel like I only got 30% of this - but even that was useful. Dedicated to return for further study.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

That's wonderful, thank you for reading Marko!

Marko Schmitt's avatar

Like I said, a lot of it went over my head, but I keep returning to it because I know there's some really useful information about how those of us from the analog age can access and make use of AI in an authentic way.

Jason Ives's avatar

Thanks! Gave me some ideas to try. I’m starting to feel confident enough in Opus 4.5’s code that I want to start spinning up multiple agents like that.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Me too! I need to up my tab game 😂 I've never tried CC in 10 tabs simultaneously.

Jason Ives's avatar

It *sounds* anxiety-inducing, but I'm wanting to try haha.

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

It does hehe 😂 But time savings > anxiety, at least for me.

Jos P's avatar

Nice one!

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

Thanks Jos, glad you enjoyed it. Do you use CC in a similar way?

Jos P's avatar

It made me think about how I use LLM's in general. And in particular when should we have steering documents like Claude.MD at the team level, project level, product level, or organization level.

Dennis Berry's avatar

Great lessons we can learn a lot from. The right strategy is everything

Karo (Product with Attitude)'s avatar

These really are great lessons, I learned a lot from him 🤗